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Post  namron on Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:26 pm

Anyone knows what's the service interval for Bravo? 10,000km or 20,000km?

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Post  Anders on Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:08 pm

namron wrote:Anyone knows what's the service interval for Bravo? 10,000km or 20,000km?
i would say 10k although TTS recommends 20k. Even a normal car will be doing at 10k so for TC car i would recommend 10k or below.
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Post  namron on Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:20 pm

ya... running at 16,000km+ now.... gotta go get it done soon Suspect

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Post  MXF on Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:25 pm

namron wrote:ya... running at 16,000km+ now.... gotta go get it done soon Suspect

which brings me to the query.....why 1st K servicing no chg engine oil?
i dun believe in the story of it being a Euro IV car lah etc lah...
just curious to know why.
volvo, vw etc oso same in that 1st 1K no oil change?
i know the service interval for certain conti marquee are 15K or even 20K....but is it really so for bravo?

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Post  omd2k on Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:52 pm

MXF wrote:
namron wrote:ya... running at 16,000km+ now.... gotta go get it done soon Suspect

which brings me to the query.....why 1st K servicing no chg engine oil?
i dun believe in the story of it being a Euro IV car lah etc lah...
just curious to know why.
volvo, vw etc oso same in that 1st 1K no oil change?
i know the service interval for certain conti marquee are 15K or even 20K....but is it really so for bravo?



Yes, only jap owners r so used to changing their oil until they feel uncomfortable without changing. Euro IV emission much much cleaner so can last longer intervals then service. Two japs car servicing equals to one conti servicing. But for turbo charged better to do 10k for each interval rather than 20k interval. My Fiat have only gone for 1k and 20k servicing and till now it is still in excellent condition though it's not a turbo charged. I heard one owner only top up engine oil rather than coming to drain out old oil and change new oil. And no problem with his car. Super save money sia. lol!

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Post  ckboon on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:27 am

namron wrote:Anyone knows what's the service interval for Bravo? 10,000km or 20,000km?

I am more comfortable with 10,000km. Do you know what kind of oil TTS is using?
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Post  inactive on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:48 am

from what i know..most turbo cars change their oil at 5000km interval. my se from tts also told me 20,000km interval but since we are paying so much for our ride..better play safe and do it at 10,000km

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Post  inactive on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:49 am

ckboon wrote:
namron wrote:Anyone knows what's the service interval for Bravo? 10,000km or 20,000km?

I am more comfortable with 10,000km. Do you know what kind of oil TTS is using?

Castrol Edge 5w40 i think..

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Post  MXF on Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:01 am

alex2405 wrote:Castrol Edge 5w40 i think..

yup. they are using Castrol Edge.
eh...omd2k....what has Euro IV got to do with the engine oil?
euro IV emission is for the exhaust and meant mainly for diesel engine, we are having the petrol version of the engine and my query is on the engine and engine oil.
so what has Euro IV got to do with it?

I am still unsure at whether the stock oil in the engine is mineral oil or synthetic oil...anyone has any idea?
or anyone chged oil at 1K? then u might know whether stock oil is mineral or synthetic?

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Post  omd2k on Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:29 am

MXF wrote:
alex2405 wrote:Castrol Edge 5w40 i think..

yup. they are using Castrol Edge.
eh...omd2k....what has Euro IV got to do with the engine oil?
euro IV emission is for the exhaust and meant mainly for diesel engine, we are having the petrol version of the engine and my query is on the engine and engine oil.
so what has Euro IV got to do with it?

I am still unsure at whether the stock oil in the engine is mineral oil or synthetic oil...anyone has any idea?
or anyone chged oil at 1K? then u might know whether stock oil is mineral or synthetic?

scratch

I suppose that plays a part too...coz even jap cars put in fully synethetic oil, at 10k mileage, engine oil is black in colour whereas the conti one is still bright brown in colour.

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Post  MXF on Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:33 am

omd2k wrote:I suppose that plays a part too...coz even jap cars put in fully synethetic oil, at 10k mileage, engine oil is black in colour whereas the conti one is still bright brown in colour.

hmm.....unbelievable.....turbo...high temp...surely oil will break down one...... scratch

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Post  omd2k on Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:39 pm

MXF wrote:
omd2k wrote:I suppose that plays a part too...coz even jap cars put in fully synethetic oil, at 10k mileage, engine oil is black in colour whereas the conti one is still bright brown in colour.

hmm.....unbelievable.....turbo...high temp...surely oil will break down one...... scratch


That's why conti cars cost more to produce n we pay higher for technology.

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Post  ckboon on Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:23 pm

alex2405 wrote:
Castrol Edge 5w40 i think..

Yucks! I think I will put in Mobil1.
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Post  Anders on Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:58 pm

ckboon wrote:
alex2405 wrote:
Castrol Edge 5w40 i think..

Yucks! I think I will put in Mobil1.

bro i remember the manual mention Selina oil. think its from italy should be good for our car but wonder where to get it and at wat price?
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Post  MXF on Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:09 pm

Anders wrote:
ckboon wrote:Yucks! I think I will put in Mobil1.

bro i remember the manual mention Selina oil. think its from italy should be good for our car but wonder where to get it and at wat price?

omd2K....i dun buy that reasoning.
technology has nothing to do with the breaking down of the oil.
oil breaks down at various temperatures etc, nothing to do with the engine tech, unless u tell me the T-jet engine is so advanced that despite turbo, it is cool inside??

anders...dun think can get selina oil here. tats why even T*S is using Castrol. I would prefer to use Amsoil, which has been very faithful to my cars for some time.

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Post  omd2k on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:31 am

MXF wrote:
Anders wrote:
ckboon wrote:Yucks! I think I will put in Mobil1.

bro i remember the manual mention Selina oil. think its from italy should be good for our car but wonder where to get it and at wat price?

omd2K....i dun buy that reasoning.
technology has nothing to do with the breaking down of the oil.
oil breaks down at various temperatures etc, nothing to do with the engine tech, unless u tell me the T-jet engine is so advanced that despite turbo, it is cool inside??

anders...dun think can get selina oil here. tats why even T*S is using Castrol. I would prefer to use Amsoil, which has been very faithful to my cars for some time.


Maybe can check out the VW GT service intervals and do a comparison. No one is stopping u from servicing every 5k. But is a waste of money. Euro 4 emission means there is no unburned fuel and there will not be carbon and making engine oil dirty. Of coz it's hot even for normal cars, but the cooling system keeps it under control, if not then overheat liao. Engine oil break down can't drive anymore? Does everyone go servicing on the dot...?

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Post  happy on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:52 pm

i can cfm TTS using castrol 5w40... Cool

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Post  MXF on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:01 am

omd2k wrote:Maybe can check out the VW GT service intervals and do a comparison. No one is stopping u from servicing every 5k. But is a waste of money. Euro 4 emission means there is no unburned fuel and there will not be carbon and making engine oil dirty. Of coz it's hot even for normal cars, but the cooling system keeps it under control, if not then overheat liao. Engine oil break down can't drive anymore? Does everyone go servicing on the dot...?

no lah...i wun service every 5K....crazy.....will follow the 10K regime.
my query is that i do not believe in the notion that becos it is an Euro IV classified engine, it is all so wonderful.

correct me if i am wrong....but isn't Euro IV classification meant for diesel engines?
ours is the petrol version and thus, that does not apply right? Question

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Post  ckboon on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:32 am

Anders wrote:
bro i remember the manual mention Selina oil. think its from italy should be good for our car but wonder where to get it and at wat price?

Alfa also suggested Selina oil, and I used it on my ex 147 (from the agent). It's thicker than normal Mobil1 but I still prefer Mobil1. Not sure if Alfa Sportivo sells Selina oil.
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Post  MXF on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:34 am

ckboon wrote:Alfa also suggested Selina oil, and I used it on my ex 147 (from the agent). It's thicker than normal Mobil1 but I still prefer Mobil1. Not sure if Alfa Sportivo sells Selina oil.

try amsoil!! Razz Razz Razz

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Post  teoky on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:34 am

MXF wrote:

no lah...i wun service every 5K....crazy.....will follow the 10K regime.
my query is that i do not believe in the notion that becos it is an Euro IV classified engine, it is all so wonderful.

correct me if i am wrong....but isn't Euro IV classification meant for diesel engines?
ours is the petrol version and thus, that does not apply right? Question

European emission standards are for BOTH petrol and diesel engines, just that diesel engine has more stringent CO standards but are allowed higher NOx.

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Post  MXF on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:36 am

teoky wrote:European emission standards are for BOTH petrol and diesel engines, just that diesel engine has more stringent CO standards but are allowed higher NOx.

i see...thansk teoky for educating me.
but is it true that there will be less carbon in the engine?
also, oil will not break down?
i thot break down means the engine eat oil lor..... study

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Post  teoky on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:44 am

MXF wrote:

i see...thansk teoky for educating me.
but is it true that there will be less carbon in the engine?
also, oil will not break down?
i thot break down means the engine eat oil lor..... study

Hmmm, that I am not so sure leh. I do know that oil breaks down due to heat, not too sure about the carbon thingy but it could be indirectly related. If combustion is not complete, you get carbon but since Euro IV mandates stricter emission standards, it means that the engine needs to employ better combustion technology so that lesser pollutants.

I am not really an expert here, not even an engineer by training, just anyhow hantam and guess Laughing

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Post  MXF on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:45 am

teoky wrote:Hmmm, that I am not so sure leh. I do know that oil breaks down due to heat, not too sure about the carbon thingy but it could be indirectly related. If combustion is not complete, you get carbon but since Euro IV mandates stricter emission standards, it means that the engine needs to employ better combustion technology so that lesser pollutants.

I am not really an expert here, not even an engineer by training, just anyhow hantam and guess Laughing

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Post  ckboon on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:47 am

MXF wrote:
but is it true that there will be less carbon in the engine?
also, oil will not break down?
i thot break down means the engine eat oil lor..... study

I think ...

Oil will break down due to heat, long usage, etc. That's why you need to change the oil after 10,000km for synthetic oil or every 5,000km for mineral oil.

Engine drinks oil means there is a gap between the piston & cylinder. Oil seeps into the chamber and gets burnt together with petrol. Tell tale sign would be blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. This is usually happens when owners do not take care of their cars i.e. didn't change oil or skip regular servicing.

However, my ex 147 twin spark engine likes to drink oil. I need to top up every 5,000km or so. It is a characteristics of twin spark engines.
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